Define $$e=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+\dfrac{1}{n}\right)^n,$$ how to prove that $$e^x=\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+\dfrac{x}{n}\right)^n,$$ for all $x$. Thank you.
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2What is your definition of $a^b$ for $a>0$ and $b\in\mathbb{R}$? – gniourf_gniourf Jul 05 '14 at 10:00
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$a^b$ is $a$ raised to the power of $b$. – kong Jul 05 '14 at 10:09
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3I'm not asking how you read $a^b$, I'm asking for a mathematical definition of $a^b$. – gniourf_gniourf Jul 05 '14 at 10:12
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see definition here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponentiation – kong Jul 05 '14 at 10:14
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1That link is not a definition, it's a collection of encyclopedic facts about exponentiation. Besides, they mention non-integer powers as involving the exponential function… If you don't give us what your definition of $a^b$ is, we can't answer in non-circular ways. – gniourf_gniourf Jul 05 '14 at 10:16
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@gniourf_gniourf: This question is not about the definition of exponentiation!You might as well ask, "What is your definition of $\mathbb R$?" – TonyK Jul 05 '14 at 10:18
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1@TonyK: OP's result involves an (non-integer) exponentiation… so don't blame me if I ask what definition of exponentiation is used before I even consider answering the question. – gniourf_gniourf Jul 05 '14 at 10:22
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Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlCf0-bOnCE – kong Jul 05 '14 at 10:22
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@gniourf_gniourf: But the extension of exponentiation to real exponents is completely unproblematic. – TonyK Jul 05 '14 at 10:23
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1If you can't edit your answer to give a proper definition of $a^b$; if you can only link to random pages or videos for that, it means that you actually don't know what $a^b$ means, so your question is not really a mathematical question. – gniourf_gniourf Jul 05 '14 at 10:24
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your answer is also not really a mathematical answer too. – kong Jul 05 '14 at 10:28
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1@kong: Don't worry about gniourf_gniourf. Obviously they're in a bad mood about something today :-) – TonyK Jul 05 '14 at 10:28
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1possible duplicate of Showing that $ \displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{r}{n} \right)^{n} = e^{r} $. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 12:03
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I think that this article might be exactly that you need. – Lucian Jul 05 '14 at 17:05
3 Answers
Use the definition
$$ e = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n $$
Then
$$ e^x = \left( \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n \right)^x = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^{nx} = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{x}{nx} \right)^{nx} = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 + \frac{x}{n} \right)^{n} $$
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Can you justify each equality by mentioning the theorems which you used? – Chellapillai Jul 05 '14 at 10:23
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That last step where you draw the power of x into the brackets to attain $(1+x/n)$, how is that true? – Just_a_fool Jul 05 '14 at 10:23
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Write $\frac{1}{n}$ as $\frac{x}{xn}$ and then use that $nx$ goes to infinity as well - so replace $nx$ by $n$... – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 10:26
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@Chellapillai: I have no idea how those theorems are called - we learn them we use them and we forget the names... – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 10:28
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Okay. Just I would like to know that whether we have to use the fact that $y\mapsto y^x(y\in[0,\infty))$ is continuous or something else? – Chellapillai Jul 05 '14 at 10:41
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Replacing $nx$ by $n$ is not allowed here as $n$ is an integer and $nx$ may not be an integer. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 12:01
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It is nowhere written that $n$ is an integer. It is a limit that goes to infinity, and both $n$ and $nx$ go to infinity (for $x \ne 0$... – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 12:07
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@johannesvalks: By convention, $n\to\infty$ implies that $n$ is a positive integer unless explicitly stated otherwise. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 16:13
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@Paramanand: Infinity is not a number, it is a concept. Therefore infinity is never an integer. – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:18
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@johannesvalks: I am not saying that $\infty$ is an integer. I am saying that $n$ is an integer. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 16:27
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@Paramanand: $\lim_{x \rightarrow\infty} x = \lim_{x \rightarrow\infty} \lfloor x \rfloor \Big( 1 + \frac{x-\lfloor x \rfloor}{\lfloor x \rfloor} \Big) = \lim_{x \rightarrow\infty} \lfloor x \rfloor = \lim_{\lfloor x \rfloor \rightarrow \infty} x$ – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:29
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@Paramanand: it is irrelevant for the limit that goes to infinity to distinguish integers from non integers in this case. – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:35
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@johannesvalks: you seem to suggest that when $n\to\infty$ then it does not matter that $n$ is an integer or not. But it does matter! $\lim_{n\to\infty}\sin n\pi = 0$ if $n$ is positive integer. If $n$ is not a positive integer then this limit does not exist. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 16:37
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@Paramanand: You have missed my words "in this case". So examples of other cases are irrelevant. – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:39
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1@johannesvalks: I know that in the current question it does not matter if $n$ is integer or real, but this fact is not obvious and very difficult to prove. Hence I want to highlight the issue. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 16:39
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@Paramanand: Now we are talking! This is a good reply. In this case it is clear, and you ask to 'prove' it... – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:42
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@johannesvalks: you should see my post http://paramanands.blogspot.com/2014/05/theories-of-exponential-and-logarithmic-functions-part-2_10.html in order to understand why it is not clear/obvious and why it needs a proof. – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 16:50
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@Paramanand: Now for me the chat is new... I went there but how do you reply? – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:50
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@Paramanand: What you wrote on you blog is based on $n$ as integers. – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 17:25
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@johannesvalks: yes in that post $n$ is an integer and towards the end of http://paramanands.blogspot.com/2014/05/theories-of-exponential-and-logarithmic-functions-part-3.html i show the case when $n$ is real. Here I use variable $t$ instead of $n$. (see equation $(14)$ of this post). – Paramanand Singh Jul 05 '14 at 17:37
Let $\frac{n}{x}=t$. Then as $n$ goes to infinity, $t$ does too. Therefore by considering the given definition of $e$ we have
$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+\dfrac{x}{n}\right)^n=\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(1+\dfrac{1}{t}\right)^{xt}=(\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(1+\dfrac{1}{t}\right)^{t})^x=e^x$$
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1I don't understand the downvote either. It's true that you have used a real number $t$ in place of the (presumed) integer $n$, but that doesn't deserve a downvote. – TonyK Jul 05 '14 at 10:22
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why i am not allowed to use the continuity of $a\mapsto a^x$? Is there any answer that the continuity is not used in it? – Fermat Jul 05 '14 at 10:30
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1@Fermat: You method is correct and there is no need to assume that $n$ is an integer. Voteup! – johannesvalks Jul 05 '14 at 16:38
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By applying $\log$ and using L'Hospital's rule $$\lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{\log\left(1+\frac{x}{n}\right)}{\frac{1}{n}}=\lim_{n\to \infty}\frac{\frac{1}{1+\frac{x}{n}}\left(\frac{-x}{n^2}\right)}{\frac{-1}{n^2}}=x$$
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