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Consider the analytic continuation of

$$f(s) = \prod_{n>1} \frac{n^s}{n^s - 1}$$

This is an analogue to the Riemann zeta function and generalization of the Euler product $$ \zeta(s) = \prod_{p = \text{prime}} \frac{p^s}{p^s - 1} $$ and hence both product definitions of $f(s)$ and $\zeta(s)$ are valid for $\operatorname{Re}(s)>1$.

I wonder where are the zeros $z_i$ of the analytic continuation of $f(s)$?

$$f(z_i) = \prod_{n>1} \dfrac{n^{z_i}}{n^{z_i} - 1} \overset{?}{=} 0.$$

Motivation
Imo, it is naturally interesting because the counting function is simply $n-1$ rather than $\pi(n)$ since we replaced primes by the naturals $> 1$. So we have a closed form of the counting function, but not yet info about the zero's. This seems like a potential interesting insight to come for zeta like functions.

Related
This Q&A might be related: Explicit formula for floor(x)?


Some analysis
In analogue to the prime zeta function or the trick performed in this Q&A: Roots and analytic continuation of $T(s)=\sum_{n>0} (n^s + n^{-s})^{-1} $? (and many other proofs related to the Riemann zeta function or primes).
It seems a good idea to once again take the logarithm. As user Conrad suggested. $$ \begin{align} f(s) &= \prod_{n>1} \frac{n^s}{n^s - 1}\\ f(s) &= \prod_{n>1} 1 + \frac{1}{n^s - 1}\\ \ln(f(s)) &= \sum_{n>2} \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{n^s - 1}\right) \end{align} $$

Attempt 1 $$ \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{x-1}\right) = [ - \ln(x-1) ] + \sum_{k = 1}^{+\infty} \frac{(-1)^k}{k} (x-1)^{- [-1]k}$$

where the terms $[- \ln(x-1)]$ and $[-1]$ exist when $|x-1| < 1$ and vanish otherwise.
For $Re(s) >1$ we have $|n^s - 1|>1$ so the term $[- \ln(x-1) ]$ vanishes, and this implies that for $Re(s)>1$ we can continue the expansion, therefore: $$ \ln(f(s)) = \sum_{n>2} \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{n^s - 1}\right) = \sum_{n>1} \sum_{k = 1}^{+\infty} \frac{(-1)^k}{k} (n^s-1)^{-k} $$ and for $0 < Re(s) < 1$ we have $$ \ln(f(s)) = \sum_{n>2} \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{n^s - 1}\right) = \sum_{n>1} -\ln(n^s - 1) + \sum_{n>1} \sum_{k = 1}^{+\infty} \frac{(-1)^k}{k} (n^s-1)^{k} $$ However the $\log$ term and the complicated double sum have issues of convergence or continuation that may be solvable, but another simpler series expansions, the following one, seems better.

Attempt 2 $$ \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{x-1}\right) = \ln(-x) + x + \frac{x^2}{2} + \frac{x^3}{3} + \frac{x^4}{4} + \frac{x^5}{5} + \ldots . $$ Now by putting $x=n^s$ we get $$ \ln(f(s)) = \sum_{n>1} \ln\left(1 + \frac{1}{n^s-1}\right) = \sum_{n>1 }\ln(-n^s) + n^s + \frac{n^{2s}}{2} + \frac{n^{3s}}{3} + \frac{n^{4s}}{4} + \frac{n^{5s}}{5} + \ldots . $$ This reduces further to $$ \ln(f(s)) = \left[\sum_{n>1} \ln(-n^s)\right] + \zeta(s) + \frac{\zeta(2s)}{2} + \frac{\zeta(3s)}{3} + \frac{\zeta(4s)}{4} + \frac{\zeta(5s)}{5} + \ldots . $$ The zeta sums are fine but the $\ln$ part is problematic ... $$ \sum_{n>1} \exp(\ln(-n^s)) = \sum_{n>1} - n^s. $$ So $$ f(s) = \pm \zeta(s) \exp\left(\zeta(s) + \frac{\zeta(2s)}{2} + \frac{\zeta(3s)}{3} + \frac{\zeta(4s)}{4} + \frac{\zeta(5s)}{5} + \ldots\right) $$ So for $Re(s) > 0$ we have the zero's of $\zeta(s)$ (RH!) and the cases where $$ g(s) = \zeta(s) + \frac{\zeta(2s)}{2} + \frac{\zeta(3s)}{3} + \frac{\zeta(4s)}{4} + \frac{\zeta(5s)}{5} + \ldots\text{ is }- \infty. $$ These cases occur IFF $s = 1/m$ for integer $m>1$ due to the pole in $\zeta(1)$.
So attempt 2 is pretty successful, but nevertheless one wonders if there are more zero's or continuations possible for $Re(s) \le 0$: is this the case?
I am not sure if in that case ($Re(s) \le 0$) it is still correct to say that $$ f(s) = \pm \zeta(s) \exp\left(\zeta(s) + \frac{\zeta(2s)}{2} + \frac{\zeta(3s)}{3} + \frac{\zeta(4s)}{4} + \frac{\zeta(5s)}{5} + \ldots \right), $$ just as it was dubious with this Q&A: Roots and analytic continuation of $T(s)=\sum_{n>0} (n^s + n^{-s})^{-1} $?
It is clear that $f(s)$ has a singularity at $s=0$ but what happens on the rest of that line $R(s)=0$ is unclear to me.

Special thanks to user Conrad.

How could I proceed further?

edit

both attempt 1 and attempt 2 have convergeance issues.

So I am back to square 1.

any ideas ?

mick
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  • I would love some feedback instead of just downvotes and close votes without explaination. Is this a dumb question ?? – mick May 04 '25 at 00:05
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    Im getting annoyed by all these closures without a single word. – mick May 04 '25 at 22:37
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    while I didn't vote to close, I am not sure why do you think that this function is interesting, has continuation etc; a simple expansion shows that the coefficients $a(n)$ is the number of writing $n$ as an unordered product of various numbers where $1$ doesn't count, so $a(p)=1$ but $a(pq)=2$ for primes $p \ne q$ so the coefficients are not multiplicative - they have a pattern and probably one can find a formula in terms of the factorization of $n$ though it may not be that simple – Conrad May 04 '25 at 23:22
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    Mick, do you have any thoughts on how one might construct the analytic continuation? – A rural reader May 04 '25 at 23:22
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    note that near $1$ we have $\log f=\zeta(s)-1+h(s)$ where $h$ is analytic for $\Re s >1/2$ so $f$ behaves roughly like $e^{\zeta}$ and in particular we should get an extension to $\Re s >1/2$ minus $1$ that has no zeroes but an essential singularity at $1$ and then we probably can continue up to $\Re s =0$ where we may have to stop since we will get an accumulation of essential singularities at least at $s=0$ - using this maybe you can analyze the function more – Conrad May 04 '25 at 23:56
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    @Aruralreader not sure, thats why I did not include it in the question. Apart from making taylor series and going from one circle to the next, it might work to use an "eta" approach ; multiply a the series (or the truncated series) with $(1 - 2^{1-s})$ and/or $(1 - 3^{1-s})$ (like Witten did). This way we probably get absolute convergeance on $Re(s) >0$ though with an error term if we use truncated series. Besides, thanks for editing so many questions ! Imo you are underrated here ! – mick May 05 '25 at 00:45
  • @Conrad was thinking about it yes , but with issues and without succes for now ... – mick May 05 '25 at 00:47
  • @Conrad it is naturally intresting because the counting function is simply $n-1$ rather than $\pi(n)$ since we replaced primes by the naturals $> 1$. – mick May 05 '25 at 00:49
  • I had the idea about taking the product over odd $n$ too, but I dont want to get anymore people " annoyed " or the question deleted :/ – mick May 05 '25 at 00:54
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    We have $\log f(s)=-\sum_{n \ge 2}\log (1-n^{-s})$; fix a level $m$ so $-\log(1-n^{-s})=n^{-s}+n^{-2s}/2+..n^{-ms}/m+O(n^{(-m-1)s})$ uniformly in $n \ge 2$ (for $\Re s >1$) so $\log f=\zeta(s)-1+(\zeta(2s)-1)/2+...(\zeta (ms)-1)/m+h(s)$ and $h$ is analytic on $\Re s >1/(m+1)$; since RHS zeta sum is meromorphic in the plane with poles at $1,1/2,..1/m$ one gets the meromorphic continuation of $\log f$ to $\Re s >1/(m+1)$ with same simple poles; this gives $f$ as analytic and novanishing on $\Re s >1/(m+1)$ minus $1,..1/m$ and with essential singularities of the type $e^{1/z}$ there – Conrad May 05 '25 at 00:59
  • @Conrad yes true. You made a typo but ok. Not sure how it relates to finding zero's yet , but the continuation is good ! Thanks – mick May 05 '25 at 01:04
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    no zeroes in $\Re s >0$ just essential singularities – Conrad May 05 '25 at 01:04
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    because $\log f$ is analytic except for poles - this precludes zeroes of $f$ (at those $\log f$ would have branch singularities, not poles) – Conrad May 05 '25 at 01:06
  • Is $Re(s) = 0$ a natural boundary ?? – mick May 05 '25 at 01:10
  • that's a good question but the analysis above cannot conclude it directly as $0$ is a limit point of essential singularities but we do not know about $it, t \ne 0$ – Conrad May 05 '25 at 01:11
  • @Conrad well every nonconstant analytic function has a zero somewhere on the riemann sphere so ... – mick May 05 '25 at 01:13
  • this one is analytic on $\Re s>0$ minus bunch of points where it has essential singularities; for example $e^{1/z}$ has no zero and is nonconstant and this is how $f$ behaves near the singularities so nothing precludes it having a continuation to say the plane minus the negative axis and those isolated points; intuitively if we look at the full half plane $\Re s >0$, $f$ behaves like an infinite product where terms are $e^{(\zeta(ks)-1)/k}$ so when we pass $1/k$ to the left we get large values around - by size arguments this may preclude continuation – Conrad May 05 '25 at 01:21
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    Note that it is not that hard to construct a function that behaves like that - analytic in the plane minus the negative axis and $1/n, n \ge 1$, has essential singularities at $1/n$ and is non zero; just take a meromorphic function in the unit disc with appropriate poles condensing at a point on the unit circle, take its exponential and Riemann-map the inside of the unit circle to the plane minus the negative axis so the poles match $1/n$ etc – Conrad May 05 '25 at 01:30

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