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The common methods for proving $A = B$ and $A \approx B$ are very different. To prove a set equality $A = B$, the common method is to show that $A \subseteq B$ and $B \subseteq A$. For the former, we show that for any $a \in A$, $a$ also has properties which guarantee that $a \in B$, and likewise for the latter. Showing that two arbitrary rings $A \approx B$ is an entirely different process; generally a one-to-one, onto, and operation preserving isomorphism $\phi: A \to B$ must be found.

Importantly, it seems as though it is impossible to 'swap' these proof techniques. It doesn't make sense, to prove, say,

$$Z_{10} \approx Z_5 \otimes Z_2$$

By trying to show $Z_{10} \subset Z_5 \otimes Z_2$ and $Z_5 \otimes Z_2 \subset Z_{10}$, because, if interpreting these symbols literally, this is nonsensical. Showing that some $(a, b) \in Z_5 \otimes Z_2$ exists also in $Z_{10}$ makes no sense because the elements and operations don't match.

Which is why I'm wondering that something like this seems to happen often in proofs relating to fields of quotients.

For example, the question which I encountered which started this whole confusion.

Let $Z[i]$ = $\{a + bi | a, b \in \mathbb{Z}\}$. Show that the field of quotients of $Z[i]$, $F$, is isomorphic to $Q[i] = \{a + bi | a, b \in \mathbb{Q}, b \ne 0\}$

This question has been asked on the Maths Stack Exchange before,and has been answered here.

The rough way that the proof goes, according to this answer (as well as the slightly different answer in the textbook itself) is as follows:

First, show that $Q[i] \subseteq F$. This is done by showing some $\frac{a}{b} + \frac{c}{d}i \in Q[i]$ can also be represented as a single fraction, $\frac{ad + cbi}{bd}$. It is now in the form of an element of $F$.

Second, show that $F \subseteq Q[i]$. This is done by showing some $\frac{a + bi}{c + di} \in F$ can, by multiplying by the conjugate, be represented like so:

$$\frac{ac + bd + (bc - ad)i}{c^2 + d^2} = \frac{ac + bd}{c^2 + d^2} + \frac{bc-ad}{c^2 + d^2}i \in Q[i]$$

At first glance this seems convincing, and I am sure that it is correct--but the more I seem to think about it, the less it makes sense. $F$, the field of quotients, is a set of equivalency classes, whilst $Q[i]$ is simply a subset of $\mathbb{C}$. Isn't proceeding by the proof above, showing that $F \approx Q[i]$ by showing $Q[i] \subseteq F$ and $F \subseteq Q[i]$ just as absurd as the earlier example of showing $Z_{10} \approx Z_5 \otimes Z_2$ by showing $Z_{10} \subset Z_5 \otimes Z_2$ and $Z_5 \otimes Z_2 \subset Z_{10}$?

Phrased another way, how can we rigorously say that (in the first part of the proof)

$$\frac{ad + cbi}{bd} \in F$$

When the element on the left-hand side is some "number" from $Q[i] \subset \mathbb{C}$ and the right hand side is a set of equivalency classes? Isn't this as absurd as the statement "$(a, b) \in Z_{10}$"?

(A similar, but opposite, argument holds for the second part of the proof).

Asaf Karagila
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  • Do you find the definition of real numbers as Dedekind cuts also "absurd"? It seems to me that often in mathematics we define objects of one kind using objects of a very different nature. To me, this only enhances the "mystery" rather than producing cognitive dissonance. – Ron Kaminsky May 27 '23 at 11:20
  • Formally speaking, $\mathbb Q\subseteq \mathbb R$ is also absurd, but $\mathbb Q$ is identified with a subfield of $\mathbb R$ so this abuse of notation makes sense. – AlvinL May 27 '23 at 12:46
  • @AlvinL So what you're saying is that the correct way of understanding is this: $Q[i] \subseteq F$ means that every element $\frac{a}{b} + \frac{c}{d}i$ in $Q[i]$ may be represented in the form of an element in $F$ (that is, $\frac{ad + cbi}{bd}$)? Similar to how it can be shown that $\mathbb{Q} \subseteq \mathbb{R}$ because each rational $q \in \mathbb{Q}$ can be represented in the form of an element in $\mathbb{R}$ (that is, a decimal)? And in mathematics, it is fair to equate the phrase "$\alpha$ may be represented in the form of an element in A" with "$\alpha \in A$"? – adam dhalla May 27 '23 at 19:15
  • @adamdhalla that's the gist of it. There's an embedding from $\mathbb Q$ into $\mathbb R$ , so whenever one says $\mathbb Q\subseteq \mathbb R$, $\mathbb Q$ is to be regarded as the image of that embedding. – AlvinL May 27 '23 at 22:29

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