6

Trying to post this question again that got downvoted.

Suppose that $x^5 + ax + b \in \mathbb{F}_p[x]$ is irreducible over $\mathbb{F}_p$. Is it true that $25b^4 + 16a^5$ is a square in $\mathbb{F}^{\times}_p$?

My idea: the Galois group of $f$ is a subgroup of $A_n$ iff its discriminant is a square. The discriminant of $f$ is $256a^5 + 3125b^4$ and while this kind of looks like $25b^4 + 16a^5$, its not quite it. So not sure if I even should try to prove the galois group is a subgroup of $A_n$. Any other ideas?

2 Answers2

4

I was curious to see if a computer gets some counterexamples (after playing Galois games, and chasing discriminants). And it found some many counterexamples starting with the prime $p=17$. I picked one with "small coefficients", that can be maybe checked also with human tools. We work over $\Bbb F_p$ all the time. $$ p = 17\ ,\ F=\Bbb F_p=\Bbb F_{17}\ ,\qquad f= x^5+7x+1\in F[x]\ . $$ The computer verdict is quick, sage code:

p = 17
F = GF(p)
R.<x> = PolynomialRing(F)
a, b = F(7), F(1)
f = x^5 + a*x + b
s = 25*b^4 + 16*a^5
print(f'Is f = {f} irreducible? {f.is_irreducible()}')
print(f'Is s = 25b^4 + 16 a^5 = {s} a square? {s.is_square()}')

Pasting the code into the sage interpreter gives:

Is f = x^5 + 7*x + 1 irreducible? True
Is s = 25b^4 + 16 a^5 = 14 a square? False

To see that $14$ is not a square, it is enough to compute all squares and see that $14$ is not in the list. The squares are $(\pm 1)^2=1$, $(\pm 2)^2=4$, $(\pm 3)^2=9$, $(\pm 4)^2=16$, $(\pm 5)^2=8$, $(\pm 6)^2=2$, $(\pm 7)^2=15$, $(\pm 8)^2=13$. And $14$ is indeed not in the list.

To see that the given polynomial is irreductible, we have to check all possible roots in $F$. No match. Then check that there is no factor of degree two. If there is one, then we get a decomposition: $$ f = x^5 + 7x +1 =(x^2 +sx+t)\left(x^3-sx^2+ux+\frac 1t\right)\ . $$ This leads to an algebraic system with $3$ equations, $u-s^3+t=0$, $1/t+su-st=0$, and $s/t + tu =7$.

It is not so simple to see there is no solution with $s,t,u\in F$. Again using computer:

sage: J = S.ideal([u - s^3 + t, 1 + s*t*u - s*t^2, s + t^2*u - 7*t])
sage: J.elimination_ideal([u,s]).gens()[0].factor()
(t^3 + t^2 + 3*t + 1) 
* (t^4 - t^3 + 5*t^2 - 8*t - 8)
* (t^6 - 4*t^4 + 5*t^3 - 4*t^2 + 8*t - 2)

(Manually rearranged.)

(After the elimination of $u,s$ we get an ideal of $F[t]$, it is principal, there is one generator, its factorization above is over $F$, no linear factor.)

dan_fulea
  • 37,952
3

Here's a slightly simpler example, in my opinion. Let $p=11$ and $f(x)=x^5+x+3$. We have $25\cdot3^4+16\equiv6\pmod{11}$ and $6$ is not squared modulo $11$.

Check the irreducibility of $f(x)$. This polynomial has no roots in $\mathbb{Z}_{11}$ can be checked using Horner's method. This will require $10$ lines of computation.

Let us check that it has no divisors of degree two. If $$ f(x)=(x^2+\alpha'x+\beta)(x^3+\alpha'x^2+\beta'x+\gamma'), $$ then $\alpha'=-\alpha$, $\beta'=\alpha^2-\beta$, $\gamma'=3/\beta$ and \begin{align*} 2\alpha\beta^2-\alpha^3\beta-3& =0, \\ \alpha^2\beta^2+3\alpha & =\beta^3+\beta. \end{align*} To prove that this system has no solutions over $\mathbb{Z}_{11}$ we can do the following.

Assume alternately $\alpha=0,1,\ldots,10$, then the first equation is a quadratic equation with respect to $\beta$. Calculate $\beta$ and substitute it into the second equation.

All of these calculations can be done manually, but you can use a computer. I have done all these calculations, I leave it to the author of the question to do them again.

Note. For $p=3,5,7$ there are no such polynomials; for $p=11,13,17,19$ there are $4,16,24,34$, respectively.

kabenyuk
  • 12,395