Do there exist functions $f:\Bbb {R} \to \Bbb {R} $ and $g:\Bbb {R} \to \Bbb {R} $ such that $f(g(x)) =x^2$ and $g(f(x)) =x^4$?
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Let $f(x) =x^m$ and $g(x) =x^n$ where $m\neq n$. Then $f(g(x)) =x^{mn} $ and $g(f(x)) =x^{mn} $. This two implies that $mn=2$ and $mn=4$ simultaneously. Which is impossible.
Am I correct? I want to know if there is any alternative way to argue this question?
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3Your reasoning is incorrect since you just explained why there are not functions of the form $x^n$ and $x^m$ that don't meet the conclusions. You did not treat the general case. – TheSilverDoe Jun 05 '22 at 10:00
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Your reasoning is valid for polynomial equation,though – Jun 05 '22 at 10:20
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1may help : 1)(exact qsn.) https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c6h1182470p5730121 2) (not same but close ) https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3064078/how-to-prove-that-there-exist-no-functions-f-g-bbbr-to-bbbr-such-that-f – Jun 05 '22 at 10:30
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Define $$f(x)= \begin{cases} 0& \text{if }x=0\\ e^{2\sqrt{-\log(|x|)}}& \text{if } 0 < |x| < 1\\ e^{2\sqrt{\log(|x|)}}& \text{if } |x| \geq 1 \end{cases} \quad \quad \text{and} \quad \quad g(x)= \begin{cases} 0& \text{if }x=0\\ e^{-\log^2(|x|)}& \text{if } 0 < |x| < 1\\ e^{\log^2(|x|)}& \text{if } |x| \geq 1 \end{cases}$$
Then $f$ and $g$ meet the required conclusions : indeed,
$\bullet\ $ If $x=0$, one has $f(g(x))=f(0)=0=0^2$ and $g(f(x))=g(0)=0=0^4$.
$\bullet\ $ If $0 < |x| < 1$, one has $$f(g(x)) = f(e^{-\log^2(|x|)}) = e^{2\sqrt{\log^2(|x|)}} = x^2$$ $$g(f(x))=g(e^{2\sqrt{-\log(|x|)}}) = e^{-\left(2\sqrt{-\log(|x|)}\right)^2} = x^4 $$
$\bullet\ $ If $|x| > 1$, then $$f(g(x))=f(e^{\log^2(|x|)}) = e^{2\sqrt{\log^2(|x|)}} = x^2$$
$$g(f(x))=g(e^{2 \sqrt{\log(|x|)}}) = e^{(2 \sqrt{\log(|x|)})^2} = x^4$$
Explanation on how to find such functions :
By composing the equalities $f(g(x))=x^2$ and $g(f(x))=x^4$ by $g$ and $f$ respectively, you get that $f$ and $g$ must satisfy $f(x)^2=f(x^4)$ and $g(x)^4=g(x^2)$. In other words, $f_{|[0, +\infty)}$ must be a conjugacy between $x \mapsto x^4$ and $x \mapsto x^2$ on $[0,+\infty)$, and $g_{|[0, +\infty)}$ must be a conjugacy between $x \mapsto x^2$ and $x \mapsto x^4$ on $[0,+\infty)$.
So I tried to construct such conjugacies, which is not so difficult : indeed, $x \mapsto x^2$ is conjugate to $x \mapsto 2x$ (thanks to the $\log$), which is conjugate to $x \mapsto 4x$ (quite easily), which is conjugate to $x \mapsto x^4$ (again thanks to the $\log$). Composing all these conjugacies leads to the given expressions for $f$ and $g$.
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But the solution creates another big question. How do you find or construct such functions which I think not obvious at all! – Math-Learner Jun 05 '22 at 11:03
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@Math-Learner A conjugacy between two maps $g$ and $h$ is a bijective map $f$ such that $g =f \circ h \circ f^{-1}$. – TheSilverDoe Jun 06 '22 at 08:49