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In Problem $3.14$, we prove (a) Hardy's inequality, (b) the condition for equality, and I shall talk about (c), (d) below. Problem $3.15$ is the discrete case of Hardy's inequality. I have asked three related questions in a single post itself, since all of them are related to Hardy's inequality, and none should be too involved.

There are some existing posts on MSE related to these topics, so I shall link them right away and point out that my question is not a duplicate: Post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4.


For the sake of mentioning it, Hardy's inequality is: For $p\in (1,\infty)$, $f\in L^p((0,\infty))$ relative to the Lebesgue measure, and $$F(x) = \frac{1}{x}\int_0^x f(t)\ dt\quad (0 < x < \infty)$$ we have $$\|F\|_p \le \frac{p}{p-1} \|f\|_p$$


Question 1: This is Problem $3.14(c)$ in Rudin's book.

Prove that the constant $p/(p-1)$ cannot be replaced by a smaller one.

In one of the linked posts, there is some discussion on how this is the best constant, but I was unable to follow it. My sense is that it suffices to find a counterexample, i.e. for every constant $\beta$ smaller than $p/(p-1)$, we need a function $f_\beta\in L^p((0,\infty))$ which does not satisfy the required inequality. Why are we complicating things? If I'm thinking right, could someone help me find a counterexample?

Question 2: This appears as Problem $3.14(d)$ of Rudin's book. The author is trying to emphasize that the inequality is not for $p = 1$.

If $f > 0$ and $f\in L^1$, prove that $F\notin L^1$.

I found an example, $f(x) = e^{-x}$. Then $F(x) = \frac{1-e^{-x}}{x}$. $F$'s integral diverges, since the integral of $1/x$ diverges (use limit comparison test for integrals). However, as @David C. Ullrich pointed out, this is not enough.

Question 3: This is Problem $3.15$ in the same book and is the discrete case of Hardy's inequality.

Suppose $\{a_n\}$ is a sequence of positive numbers. Prove that $$\sum_{N=1}^\infty \left(\frac{1}{N} \sum_{n=1}^N a_n \right)^p \le \left(\frac{p}{p-1} \right)^p \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n^p$$ if $1 < p < \infty$. If $a_n\ge a_{n+1}$, the result can be made to follow from Hardy's inequality. This special case implies the general one.

I took $f = \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n \mathbf{1}_{[n,n+1]}$. Then $f\in L^p$ only if $\sum_{n=1}^\infty a^p_n < \infty$. If $f\notin L^p$, the inequality is trivial. So let's take $f\in L^p$. Now using Hardy's inequality, we have $\|F\|_p \le \frac{p}{p-1} \|f\|_p$. What is $F$? $$F(x) = \frac{1}{x}\int_0^x \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n\mathbf{1}_{[n,n+1]}(t)\ dt = \frac{1}{x}\left(\sum_{n=1}^{\lfloor x\rfloor} a_n + (x - \lfloor x\rfloor)a_{\lfloor x\rfloor + 1} \right)$$ How do I proceed?


P.S. I have already solved Problems $3.14(a)$ and $3.14(b)$, i.e. proving Hardy's inequality and showing that equality holds iff $f = 0$ a.e.

  • Regarding your first question, your idea is reasonable, but not quite right. You need to show that given any constant less than $p/(p-1)$, there's a counterexample. –  Jun 17 '21 at 18:51
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    @Bungo That's what I wanted to write - somehow typed wrongly. I have corrected it now. $f_\beta$ depends on $\beta$. Thanks for pointing it out! – stoic-santiago Jun 17 '21 at 18:55
  • @OliverDiaz I had linked that post too. I am not familiar with Hardy transforms which you have used. Maybe I don't understand your solution well, but did you find $f_\beta$ for every $\beta < \frac{p}{p-1}$? – stoic-santiago Jun 17 '21 at 18:58
  • Regarding the second question, the tail of your proposed $F(x)$ looks like $1/x$ for large $x$, hence $\int_1^{\infty}|F(x)|\ dx = \infty$ Therefore irrespective of what happens on the interval $[0,1]$, we must have $\int_0^{\infty}|F(x)|\ dx = \infty$ as well. –  Jun 17 '21 at 19:00
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    Just a bypasser comment: This question has a great layout, other MSE users should learn from you! – Qi Zhu Jun 17 '21 at 19:01
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    @QiZhu Almost all my questions follow this layout/format - thank you! – stoic-santiago Jun 17 '21 at 19:02
  • @Bungo: not quite so (your first suggestion) it is enough to show that the bound $\frac{p}{p-1}$ is almost attained by functions in $L_p$ of norm $1$. For then, whenever $c<p/(p-1)$, then $c<|H(f)|_p \approx\frac{p}{p-1}$, where $Hf=\frac{1}{x}\int^x_0f$. – Mittens Jun 18 '21 at 04:57
  • @OliverDiaz Ah, you are correct, good observation. Thanks! I'll leave the earlier comment intact even at the risk of confusion, because the OP had responded to it and I don't want to create even more confusion! –  Jun 18 '21 at 05:00
  • For Q2 it's not enough to find one example; you're supposed to show that if $f$ is any strictly positive $L^1$ function then $F\notin L^1$. – David C. Ullrich Jun 23 '21 at 11:10
  • Oops, you're right! How would you do that? @DavidC.Ullrich – stoic-santiago Jun 23 '21 at 11:15
  • it's very simple; see answer – David C. Ullrich Jun 23 '21 at 11:21

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May details are left to you. The important part is that you review Post 4 where they show why $p/(p-1)$ is the best contact in Hardy's inequality. I give a brief explanation (but do not re do any of the constructions there) of why this is the case.


Question 1: The answers to the Post 4 (one of which follow the Hint of your textbook) gives the optimal bound in Hardy's inequality. To see this, notice that each solution there explicitly constructs a sequence of functions $\{f_n:n\in\mathbb{N}\}\subset L_p$, such that

  1. $\|f_n\|_p=1$,
  2. and $\lim_n\|Hf_n\|_p=\frac{p}{p-1}$.

If the bound $p/(p-1)$ were not optimal, and say $\|Hf\|_p\leq c\|f\|_p$ for all $f\in L_p$, for some constant $c<\frac{p}{p-1}$, then for any of the sequences built in the aforementioned posting, you would have that $$c\|f_n\|=c\geq \|Hf_n\|_p\xrightarrow{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{p}{p-1}$$ which is a contradiction to $c<p/(p-1)$.


Question 3: suppose $\{a_n:n\in\mathbb{N}\}$ is a monotone non increasing sequence of positive numbers such that $\sum_na^p_n<\infty$, and define $f$ as $$ f(x):=\sum^\infty_{n=1}a_n\mathbb{1}_{(n-1,n]}(x)$$ and consider the Hardy transform $Hf$ of $f$, i.e., $Hf(x):=\frac1x\int^x_0f(t)\,dt$ Then $$Hf(x)=\left\{ \begin{matrix} a_1 &\text{if}&0<x\leq1\\ \tfrac{a_1+\ldots + a_n+(x-n)a_{n+1}}{x} & \text{if} &1\leq n<x\leq n+1 \end{matrix} \right. $$ The assumption on $a_n$ implies that for $1\leq n<x\leq n+1$ $$\begin{align} \frac{a_1+\ldots + a_n+(x-n)a_{n+1}}{x}&=\frac{(a_1-a_{n+1})+\ldots +(a_n-a_{n+1})}{x}+a_{n+1}\\ &\geq \frac{a_1+\ldots+ a_n-na_{n+1}}{n+1} +a_{n+1}=\frac{a_1+\ldots + a_{n+1}}{n+1} \end{align}$$ Hence $$\begin{align} \int^\infty_0(Hf)^p&=\sum^\infty_{n=0}\int^{n+1}_n(Hf)^p\\ &\geq\sum^\infty_{n=0}\Big(\frac1{n+1}\sum^{n+1}_{k=1}a_k\Big)^p =\sum^\infty_{n=1}\Big(\frac1{n}\sum^{n}_{k=1}a_k\Big)^p \end{align}$$ Provided you have proved Hardy's inequality for $L_p((0,\infty),\mathscr{B}((0,\infty),\lambda)$, where $\lambda$ is Lebesgue's measure, then The conclusion of Question 2 follows for the special case $0\leq a_{n+1}\leq a_n$ for all $n\in\mathbb{N}$.

See if you can get the general case ($a_n\geq0$ and $\sum^\infty_{n=1}a^p_n<\infty$) from this (consider for example finite segments of $a_n$, that is $b^{(m)}_n=a_n\mathbb{1}_{(0,m]}(n)$ and apply the result to a "reordering" of $b^{(m)}$).


Question 2: As David C. Ulrich mentioned in his comment and answer, the problem asks to show that $Hf\notin L_1(0,\infty)$ for all $f\in L_1(0,\infty)$ with $f>0$. Here is a proof using Fubini's theorem. Since $g(t, x)=\frac{1}{x}f(t)\mathbb{1}_{(0,x]}(t)\geq0\,$ and measurable in $(0,\infty)\times(0,\infty)$, one can iterate integrals to get \begin{align} \int^\infty_0\int^x_0\frac{1}{x}f(t)\,dt\,dx&=\int^\infty_0\int^\infty_t\frac{1}{x}f(t)\,dx\,dt=\int^\infty_0f(t)\int^\infty_t\frac{1}{x}\,dx\,dt=\infty \end{align} A simpler proof is given by David C. Ulrich here

Although not asked in the OP, one can easily show that the Hardy operator is of weak type (1,1), that is, there is a constant $C>0$ such that $\displaystyle \lambda(|Hf|> t)\leq \frac{C\|f\|_1}{t}$ for all $f\in L_1(0,\infty)$ where $\lambda$ denotes Lebesgue measure. Indeed, since $$|Hf|\leq\frac1x\int^x_0|f|\,d\lambda\leq\frac1x\|f\|_1,$$ $\left\{x>0:|Hf(x)|>t\right\}\subset\left\{x>0: \frac{\|f\|_1}{x}>t\right\}=\left(0,\frac{\|f\|_1}{t}\right)$. Consequently $$\lambda(|Hf|> t)\leq \frac{\|f\|_1}{t}\quad\forall t>0$$

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  • @OliverDiaz Thanks! I understand Q1 and Q2. Your answer on Post 4 explains it well. Working on the last one now. – stoic-santiago Jun 23 '21 at 16:34
  • @epsilon-emperor: have you completed your study of question 3? – Mittens Jun 24 '21 at 22:52
  • To elaborate, here's what I'm trying to do: $$\sum_{N=1}^\infty \left(\frac{1}{N} \sum_{n=1}^N b_n \right)^p \le \sum_{N=1}^\infty \left(\frac{1}{N} \sum_{n=1}^N a_n \right)^p \le \left(\frac{p}{p-1} \right)^{p} \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n^p = \left(\frac{p}{p-1} \right)^{p} \sum_{n=1}^\infty b_n^p$$ where ${b_n}$ is a sequence of positive numbers, and ${a_n}$ is the reordering of ${b_n}$ such that $a_n \ge a_{n+1}$ for all $n$. – stoic-santiago Jun 26 '21 at 07:51
  • The above (first) inequality should intuitively hold since ${a_n}$ is decreasing and we are summing up "larger terms" "more times", but it doesn't seem easy to put this down formally. I think the intuition is clear to me though, please confirm. Thanks! – stoic-santiago Jun 26 '21 at 11:07
  • I think our $a_n$'s and $b_n$'s are swapped. – stoic-santiago Jun 27 '21 at 08:58
  • @epsilon-emperor: Notice that I am not reordering the whole sequence $a$, but only the first $m$-terms (the reminder terms I set to $0$). Borrowing notation from Statistics, let $a^(m)1\geq a^{(m)}_2\geq\ldots\geq a^{(m)}_m\geq0$ be the decreasing reordering of the first $m$-terms of $a$, and set $a^{(m)}_k=0$ for $k>m$. Apply Hardy's inequality to this sequence and notice that $\frac{1}{k}\sum^k{j=1}a_j\leq\frac{1}{k}\sum^k_{j=1}a^{(m)}_j$ for all $1\leq k\leq m$ (*to be continued*) – Mittens Jun 27 '21 at 14:49
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    @epsilon-emperor:...Then, for any $m$, we get $$\begin{align} \sum^m_{k=1}\Big(\frac{1}{k}\sum^k_{j=1}a_j\Big)^p&\leq\sum^m_{k=1}\Big(\frac{1}{k}\sum^k_{j=1}a^{(m)}j\Big)^p\leq\sum^\infty{k=1}\Big(\frac{1}{k}\sum^k_{j=1}a^{(m)}j\Big)^p\ &\leq\big(\frac{p}{p-1}\big)^p\sum^\infty{k=1}(a^{(m)}j)^p=\big(\frac{p}{p-1}\big)^p\sum^m{k=1}(a^{(m)}j)^p=\big(\frac{p}{p-1}\big)^p\sum^m{k=1}a^p_j \end{align}$$ – Mittens Jun 27 '21 at 14:58
  • Yes, perfect, that's exactly my reasoning too. Thank you! – stoic-santiago Jun 27 '21 at 16:00
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People seem to be misinterpreting Q2. It says

If $f > 0$ and $f\in L^1$, prove that $F\notin L^1$.

You can't do that by giving an example. Luckily it's trivial:

Since $f>0$ some elementary measure theory(see below) shows that there exists a bounded set $E$ with $m(E)>0$ and a $\delta>0$ so $f\ge\delta$ on $E$. Hence if $x>\sup E$ we have $$F(x)=\frac1x\int_0^x f \ge\frac1x\int_E\delta=\frac{\delta m(E)}{x},$$so $F\notin L^1$.

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(edit) If $f(x)>0$ there exists $n\in\Bbb N$ with $f(x)>1/n$; hence $$(0,\infty)=\bigcup_{n=1}^\infty I_n,$$ where $$I_n=\{x:f(x)>1/n\}.$$So countable additivity shows there exists $n_0$ with $$m(I_{n_0})>0.$$ Again, $$I_{n_0}=\bigcup_{k=1}^\infty(I_{n_0}\cap(0,k)),$$so we can let $E=I_{n_0}\cap(0,k)$ for a suitable $k$; any choice of $k$ gives a bounded set on which $f>\delta>0$, and if $k$ is large enough then $m(E)>0$.

  • I don't think that's right. Haven't thought about it much, since a direct proof is very simple (see edit coming soon), but there are problems with exactly what you mean by "$f<\delta$ on $E$". The negation of the lemma has just "there exists $x\in E$ with $f(x)<\delta$", but it seems to me that in the rest of the argument you're assuming $f(x)<\delta$ for all $x\in E$. – David C. Ullrich Jun 23 '21 at 21:48
  • All you really need is $f\ge 0$ and $m(f>0)>0$. In this case there is a $\delta>0$ and a bounded measurable set $E$ with $m(E)>0$ and $E\subset{f\ge\delta}$, in which case $F(x)\ge \delta m(E)/x$ for all $x>\sup E$. – John Dawkins Jun 28 '21 at 16:09
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Here another approach to question 1, finding simple counter-examples.

Given $a>p$, let's define this function : $$f_a(x)=x^{-1/a}\times\chi_{(0,1]}(x)$$ where $\chi_{(0,1]}(x)=1$ if $x\in(0,1]$ and $0$ otherwise.

Then $$(\lVert f_a\rVert_p)^p=\int_0^1x^{-p/a}dx=\dfrac{a}{a-p} $$ Let's compute $F_a$.

if $x\ge 1$ : $$\begin{equation}\begin{aligned} F_a(x)&=\dfrac{1}{x}\int_0^xt^{-1/a}dt\\\\ &=\dfrac{a}{a-1}x^{-1/a} \end{aligned}\end{equation}$$

if $x>1$ : $$\begin{equation}\begin{aligned} F_a(x)&=\dfrac{1}{x}\int_0^1t^{-1/a}dt\\\\ &=\dfrac{a}{a-1}x^{-1} \end{aligned}\end{equation}$$

Thus

$$\begin{equation}\begin{aligned} (\lVert F_a\lVert_p)^p&=\left(\dfrac{a}{a-1}\right)^p \left(\int_0^1x^{-p/a}dx+\int_1^{+\infty}x^{-p}dx\right)\\\\ &=\left(\dfrac{a}{a-1}\right)^p\left(\dfrac{a}{a-p}+\dfrac{1}{p-1}\right)\\\\ =&\left(\dfrac{a}{a-1}\right)^p\left(\dfrac{p(a-1)}{(a-p)(p-1)}\right) \end{aligned}\end{equation}$$

And now we can compute $$\begin{equation}\begin{aligned} \left(\dfrac{\lVert F_a\rVert_p}{\lVert f_a\rVert_p}\right)^p&= \left(\dfrac{a}{a-1}\right)^p\left(\dfrac{p(a-1)}{(a-p)(p-1)}\right)\times\dfrac{a-p}{a}\\\\ &=\left(\dfrac{a}{a-1}\right)^{p-1}\times \dfrac{p}{p-1} \end{aligned}\end{equation}$$

The function $\varphi : x\mapsto \dfrac{x}{x-1}$ is decreasing. Thus the last equality allows, as $a>p$ : $$ \dfrac{\lVert F_a\rVert_p}{\lVert f_a\rVert_p}\ge \dfrac{a}{a-1} $$

For any $\varepsilon>0$, as $\varphi$ is continuous, there exists $a>p$ such as $$ \dfrac{a}{a-1}>\dfrac{p}{p-1}-\varepsilon $$

So finally, for any $\varepsilon>0$, there exists a $f_a$ function so that $\lVert F_a\rVert_p>\left(\dfrac{p}{p-1}-\varepsilon\right)\lVert f_a\rVert_p$

Thus $\dfrac{p}{p-1}$ is the smallest constant.

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