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I was teaching my high school students how to find the roots of 2nd degree equations like the following:

$\frac{x^2}{2}+\sqrt{3}x-\sqrt{2}=0$

In this case, using the formula we get:

$x=-\sqrt{3}\pm\sqrt{3-2\sqrt{2}}$

To simplify I writted $3-2\sqrt{2}$ as $(\sqrt{2}-1)^2$, so I get:

$x=-\sqrt{3}\pm(\sqrt{2}-1)$

In this case was simple to write $3-2\sqrt{2}$ as $(\sqrt{2}-1)^2$, there are some harder cases to find this factorization.

My question is when it's possible to write $a+b\sqrt{c}$ as $(m+n)^2$, and how to find these numbers $m$ and $n$?

MrBr
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Suppose $a+b\sqrt{c} = (m+n\sqrt{c})^2$, where $a$, $b$, $c$, $m$, and $n$ are integers and further that $c > 0$ (otherwise we are not talking about the real-valued square root or we are talking about $a+0 = a$). Then \begin{align*} a+b\sqrt{c} &= (m+n\sqrt{c})^2 \\ &= m^2 + cn^2 + 2 m n \sqrt{c} \\ \end{align*} This forces $b$ even. So, not possible if $b$ is odd. Then for each (partial) factorization $b = 2 x y$, where $x$ and $y$ are integers, can be $\pm 1$, and need not be prime, we have a solution if $x^2 + cy^2 = a$ or $y^2 + cx^2 = a$. In the former case, take $m = x$ and $n = y$. In the latter, take $m = y$ and $n = x$.

Applied to your example... We attempt to simplify $\sqrt{3+2\sqrt{2}}$, so $a = 3$, $b = c = 2$. Since the $2$ coefficient of the radical is even, there may be a solution. The (partial) factorizations of $2$ of the suitable form are $2 \cdot 1 \cdot 1$ and $2 \cdot -1 \cdot -1$. In the first case, $1^2 + 1^2 \cdot c = 3 = a$, as desired and we obtain $3 + 2\sqrt{2} = (1+1\sqrt{2})^2$. (The latter (partial) factorization gives $3+2\sqrt{2} = (-1-\sqrt{2})^2$, which is also true.)

Eric Towers
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This is not as hard as it seems.

[I will slightly alter your notation, and instead of $(m+n)^2$ I will use $(m + n\sqrt{c})^2$.]

$$ (m + n\sqrt{c})^2 = a + b \sqrt{c} $$ Expanding and collecting everything on the left-hand side gives us: $$ n^2 c + (2mn - b) \sqrt{c} + (m^2 - a) = 0$$

We are given $a, b, c \in \mathbb{Z}$, and likewise we want $m, n \in \mathbb{Z}$. Well, the first and third terms are integers, and the second one isn't (unless $c$ is a perfect square -- otherwise we could have used simpler methods). This means that the coefficient of $\sqrt{c}$ must be equal to $0$. This gives us the new equation $mn = \frac{b}{2}$. So, $b$ must be even for this to work.

The two remaining terms also need to sum to 0. This means $n^2 c + m^2 = a$.

So, let's sum up what we have so far:

  • $b$ must be even.
  • $mn = \frac{b}{2}$
  • $n^2 c + m^2 = a$

Unless $b = 0$, in which case we have a much simpler problem, we have that $n \neq 0$. This means that we can safely divide by $n$ , and get:

  • $m = \frac{b}{2n}$

We can substitute that into our last equation, which gives us:

  • $n^2 c + \frac{b^2}{4n^2} = a$ If we let $N = n^2$, we can multiply by $N$ and rewrite all this as:
  • $N^2 c + \frac{b^2}{4} = a$ So, we get: $N^2 = \frac{a}{c} - \frac{b^2}{4c}$. This means: $$N^2 = \frac{4a - b^2}{4c}$$ The right-hand side must be positive (so $4a > b^2$) and it must be a perfect square. So, the constraint you were looking for are:
  • $b$ is even.
  • $4a > b^2$
  • $\frac{4a - b^2}{4c}$ is a perfect square. [The first constraint is not strictly necessary, if you don't mind working with fractions instead of integers.]

For your example, we get $$\frac{4\times 3 - 2^2}{4 \times 2} = \frac{8}{8} = 1 = 1^2$$

So, we know $n = \pm \sqrt{N}$, and $m = \pm \frac{b}{2\sqrt{N}}$. We can safely choose one sign for $n$ and take the corresponding sign for $m$ (the other option would just give us $(-m -n\sqrt{c})$).

Oscar Lanzi
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