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Schanuel's conjecture is a strengthening of the Lindemann-Weierstrass-threorem. It states

If $\lambda_1,\cdots \lambda_n$ are complex numbers linearly independent over $\mathbb Q$, then $$\mathbb Q(\lambda_1,\cdots \lambda_n,e^{\lambda_1},\cdots ,e^{\lambda_n})$$ has transcendental degree at least $n$ over $\mathbb Q$

(See http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SchanuelsConjecture.html )

I recently read that in transcendental-theory "anything could be proven", if Schanuel's conjecture would be proven.

One of the consequences would be that $e$ and $\pi$ are algebraically independent. In particular, many combinations of $e$ and $\pi$ could be proven to be transcendental, for example $e+\pi$ , $e\pi$ , $e^e$ and so on. But what could be proven else ?

Can someone give a survey which type of numbers could be proven to be transcendental ? I would like to get an idea of the power of the conjecture and to understand the "anything" better.

Additional questions :

Would Schanuel's conjecture be of any use in the case of the Euler-Mascheroni-constant (I guess no) ?

How strong do mathematicians believe that Schanuel's conjecture is true ? Are there any mathematicians having doubts or do some mathematicians even believe it is false ? (My guess is that the conjecture is strongly believed to be true)

jjagmath
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Peter
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Preliminaries

Let $m,n \in \mathbb{Z}^2_{>0}$ with $m<n$ and $\alpha_1, \alpha_2, \dots, \alpha_n \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}} \setminus \{0,1\}$, with $\alpha_2 \not\in \mathbb{Q}$. We let $\log^n(x)$ denote the $n$-fold composition of $\log$, e.g., $\log^2(x) = \log(\log(x))$. We let ${}^n x$ denote the $n$-fold tetration, e.g., ${}^3 x = x^{x^x}$. We let $\boxed{f}$ denote the set of complex roots of some function $f$. Assume $\alpha \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$, $\beta^\gamma \ne 1$, and $\beta^{\gamma \alpha} \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}}$.

Generally, the expressions discussed below are sets in disguise. For example, $$ 2^{\sqrt{2}} = \boxed{x^{\sqrt{2}/2} - 2} = \left\{ 2^{\sqrt{2}} e^{k \cdot 2\pi i \sqrt{2}} : k \in \mathbb{Z} \right\} $$ Each element in this set is transcendental by Gelfond–Schneider theorem. $\exp$ and $\log$ are multivalued functions. We will use SC-Transcendental for numbers which are demonstrably transcendental after we assume Schanuel's conjecture.

Big Set of Transcendentals

The following are SC-Transcendental.

\begin{align*} &\log^n(\pi),\quad {}^n e,\quad {}^n \pi, {}^{n} \alpha \quad e+\pi,\quad e\pi,\quad e^{\pi^2},\quad \boxed{2^t + 3^t - 1},\quad \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{3}^{\sqrt{5}}},\\ & e^{e^{\alpha_1}},\quad \sin(e),\quad \cos(e),\quad \tan(e),\quad \sinh(e),\quad \cosh(e),\quad \tanh(e),\\ &\pi^e,\quad \pi^i,\quad 2^\pi,\quad 2^e,\quad \log \pi,\quad \log \log 2,\quad (\log 2)^{\log 3},\quad \sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}}},\\ &i^{i^i},\quad i^{e^{\pi}},\quad \alpha^{\beta^\gamma},\quad e^{e^{\dots^{e^{\alpha_1}}}}, \log(\Gamma(m/n)) + \log(\Gamma(1-m/n)), \boxed{\alpha^{\alpha^x}=x}, \\ & \pi^{\pi^2}, \pi \log(2), 2^{\log(2)}, \log(2)\log(3), \pi 2^\sqrt{2} \end{align*}

The Gist

We aim to explore the type of intuition Schanuel’s Conjecture provides—specifically, what kinds of transcendence results it allows us to access. We have ${\alpha_1}^{\alpha_2}$ transcendental by Gelfond-Schneider but now we get one more tier as $\alpha^{\beta^\gamma}$ is SC-transcendental. We gain more influence over numbers directly related to $e$. SC enhances our reach into transcendental numbers built from $e$, and through Euler’s formula, into expressions involving $\pi$. We still don't get complete control: $$e^{\pi^{e^{\pi^{\pi}}}}, \sin(\cos(\tanh(e))), \sum_{n=1}^\infty n^{-3}, \sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{2^n-1}$$ seem to be non-examples. Not that these could someday be shown to be SC-transcendental (seems unlikely)—but as it stands, SC offers little control over such expressions. If a representation cannot be manipulated into something that is meaningfully related to $e$ we will struggle to get influence over this representation with SC: Despite being demonstrably irrational, $\zeta(3)$ and the Erdos-Borwein Constant seem to lie beyond the reach of Schanuel's conjecture.

What follows below is a quick and dirty literature review. In this, I can do no better than Ram Murty's chapter on Schanuel's Conjecture in Transcendental Numbers but I am leaving breadcrumbs. Each form in the big list above is a direct result of the references below.

Schanuel's Conjecture Results}

Assuming Schanuel’s Conjecture (SC), the following are algebraically independent over $\mathbb{Q}$: $$ \left\{ e,\ e^\pi,\ e^e,\ e^i,\ \pi,\ \pi^e,\ \pi^i,\ 2^\pi,\ 2^e,\ \log \pi,\ \log 2,\ \log 3,\ \log \log 2,\ (\log 2)^{\log 3},\ 2^{\sqrt{2}} \right\} $$ (Source: Marques & Sondow, 2010)This implies the transcendence of $e + \pi$, $e\pi$, and $q(e,\pi)$ for any rational function $q$. On slide 31 of Waldschimdt, M. we can read that the following are algebraically independent. $\{ e+\pi,e\pi,\pi^{e},e^{\pi^{2}},e^{e},e^{e^{2}},...,e^{e^{e}} ,..., \pi^{\pi},\pi^{\pi^{\pi}},...,\ \log\left(\pi\right), \log\left(\log\left(2\right)\right),\ \pi\log\left(2\right),\log\left(2\right)\log\left(3\right),2^{\log\left(2\right)},\log\left(2\right)^{\log\left(3\right)},... \}$

I must confess, I don't really have a guess at what the last set of ellipses captures. The previous ones I suspect are $e^{e^n}, {}^n e, {}^n\pi$ respectively.

This shows $\pi 2^\sqrt{2}$ transcendental which was asked about here on MSE.

Exponential Towers + Field-Theoretic Framework

$$ \left\{ e,\ e^e,\ e^{e^e},\ e^{e^{e^e}},\ \dots \right\} $$ is algebraically independent by repeated application of SC.

Define the tower of fields: $ E_0 = \overline{\mathbb{Q}}, \quad E_n = \text{alg. closure of } E_{n-1}(\exp(x) \mid x \in E_{n-1}), \quad E = \bigcup_{n \geq 0} E_n $

Then: $ \{ \pi,\ \log \pi,\ \log \log \pi,\ \dots \} $ is algebraically independent over $E$. (Source: Arizona Winter School, 2008 Note: $\log^4(\pi) \notin \mathbb{R}$—this set contains no reals. More accurate is $\log^4(\pi)\cap\mathbb{R} =\emptyset$.

Consequences for Classical Theorems

SC generalizes Hermite–Lindemann For example: $ \alpha \neq 0 \text{ algebraic} \Rightarrow e^{e^{\dots^{e^\alpha}}} \text{ is SC-transcendental} $ It also generalizes Gelfond–Schneider: If $\alpha \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}} \setminus \{0,1\}$ and $\beta \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$, then $\log (\alpha)$ and $\alpha^{\beta}$ are algebraically independent. (Source: Some Consequences of Schanuel’s Conjecture)

Gamma Function Results

SC implies the transcendence of $ \log(\Gamma(x)) + \log(\Gamma(1-x)) $ for all rational $x$ in $(0,1)$. (Source: \textit{Transcendental Numbers} by M. Ram Murty and P. Rath)

Personal Explorations

A concrete example: $ 2^t + 3^t = 1 \Rightarrow t \text{ is transcendental (by SC)} $ More generally, the solutions to: $$ \sum_{n=1}^k p_n^t = 1 \quad (\text{where } p_n \text{ are distinct primes}) $$ are SC-transcendental.

Note that $e^e$ and $e^{ei}$ are SC-transcendental, so $\cos(e) = (e^{ei} + e^{-ei}) / 2$ is also transcendental. Trigonometric functions at $e$ are rational functions evaluated at SC-transcendental numbers.

What Schanuel's Conjecture Doesn’t (Seem to) Prove

SC does \textit{not} appear to prove: $$ (e + 1)^{\sqrt{2}},\quad \sin(\sin(e)),\quad e^{\pi^{e^{\pi^{\pi^e}}}},\quad $$

For these, something stronger may be needed, such as \textbf{Schanuel Subset Conjecture (SSC)} explored in Marques & Sondow, 2012. SSC \textit{does} imply the transcendence of: $(e + 1)^{\sqrt{2}}$. And more generally, for non-constant $P, Q \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}}[x]$ and any $a \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}} \setminus \{0\}$, SSC implies:$ P(e)^a, P(\pi)^a, P(\log 2)^a, P(\pi)^{Q(\pi)}, P(e)^{Q(e)} $

SC doesn't seem to resolve Gelfond's second conjecture or Gelfond's power tower conjecture. The following forms do not seem to be demonstrably SC-transcendental (This seems unlikely but not known). $$ e^{\alpha _1 e^{\alpha_2 ^{\dots^{e^{\alpha_n}} }}},\alpha_1^{\alpha_2^{\dots^{\alpha_{n}}}}, $$

Note here that the form above is currently unresolved but the simpler ${}^{n} \alpha$ is SC-transcendental. These unproven extensions are from Gelfond.

References

Marques, D., & Sondow, J. (2010). Some Consequences of Schanuel’s Conjecture. arXiv:1010.6216

AWS 2008 Workshop Group. Some Consequences of Schanuel’s Conjecture. Arizona Winter School

Murty, M.R., & Rath, P. (2013). Transcendental Numbers. Springer. Book — Also available here

Marques, D., & Sondow, J. (2012). The Schanuel Subset Conjecture Implies Gelfond’s Power Tower Conjecture. arXiv:1212.6931

Macintyre, A. (1991). Schanuel’s Conjecture and Free Exponential Rings. Ann. Pure Appl. Logic, 51, 241–246.

Macintyre, A. (2016). Schanuel’s Conjecture and Decidability Problems. Annals of Pure and Applied Logic, 167(10), 830–841. I have not used this inline [yet], but it is an interesting paper. Schanuel's conjecture is also interesting from a theoretical computer science perspective and we can construct forms that are SC-Transcendental. ScienceDirect

Waldschmidt, M. Schanuel’s Conjecture: algebraic independence of transcendental numbers PDF

Mason
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  • A literature review is just going to be big no matter how I slice it.

    Alan Baker's book could be added here. This link seems good: https://www.mdpi.com/2227-7390/9/7/717

    – Mason Apr 18 '25 at 18:16
  • Also $\pi\neq a^b$ with $a,b \in \bar{\mathbb{Q}}$ is a claim found in theorem 3 of this and here. The first link uses SSC and the second just needs SC. – Mason May 27 '25 at 20:11
  • Curiosity: Does SC imply $\pi$ not in $A_2$ as written in this question ? – Mason May 27 '25 at 20:13
  • Maybe $\exp$ isn't really multivalued and I should be writing that $\exp$ can have an interpretation as multivalued because $\log$ is multivalued. – Mason Jun 15 '25 at 17:11