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Let $f$ be a measurable function belonging to a Besov space of non-positive regularity $B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}$, where $\gamma\le 0$, $p\in[1,\infty]$. Is it true that $|f|$ belongs to the same space and $\|\,|f|\,\|_{B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}}\le C\|f\|_{B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}}$ for some universal $C=C(\gamma,p)>0$?

Note that if $\gamma\in(0,1)$, then the answer is positive. Indeed, in this case $$ \|f\|_{B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}}=\|f\|_{L_p(\mathbb{R}^d)}+\sup_{h\in[0,1]^d} h^{-\gamma}\|f(h+\cdot)-f\|_{L_p(\mathbb{R}^d)}, $$ and clearly $|\,|f(h+\cdot)|-|f|\,|\le |f(h+\cdot)-f\,|$. Thus, $\|\,|f|\,\|_{B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}}\le \|f\|_{B^{\gamma}_{p,\infty}}$

I wonder whether the same is true for non-positive $\gamma$.


UPD: If $\gamma<0$, the answer is negative. The counter-example suggested by user Gerw is $f(x)=\sin nx$.

What if $\gamma=0$? Clearly, the answer is positive for the space $B^0_{2,2}=L_2$, but what about the space $B^0_{p,\infty}$?

Oleg
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  • Note: For $\gamma >1$ (which is not the main part of your question), i don't think that this is true in general. – PhoemueX Aug 23 '21 at 14:55
  • @PhoemueX That's a bit strange... Do you have a counter-example for $\gamma>1$? – Oleg Aug 23 '21 at 15:48
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    @PhoemueX I think you are right: something very simple such as $f(x)=x$ would work as a counter-example for $\gamma=2$. Thanks for noticing this! – Oleg Aug 23 '21 at 16:57
  • In general, negative Besov spaces contain distributions. If you want to consider a measurable function as a distribution, it has to be locally $L^1$. Is it the assumption you want? Or do you consider general distributions (in which case defining the absolute value only works for measures, as indicated by gerw). – LL 3.14 Aug 28 '21 at 21:13

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I think that this is not possible for arbitrary elements. Let us consider a negative Besov space $B$. If $f \in B$ would imply $|f| \in B$, we could partition $f = f^+ - f^-$ with positive and negative part $f^{\pm} = (|f| \pm f)/2$. This implies $B = B^+ - B^+$ with $B^+ = \{ f \in B \;|\; f \ge 0\}$. However, elements in $B^+$ are measures, thus, $B^+ - B^+$ would consists only of signed measures. However, in most cases, $B$ should contain elements that are not signed measures, see, e.g., Decomposition of functionals on sobolev spaces for the case $B = H^{-1}(\Omega) = (H_0^1(\Omega))^\star$.

I am not so sure about the case of measurable functions $f$. But maybe one can modify the construction from Decomposition of measures acting on sobolev spaces to obtain a function $f \in H^{-1}(\Omega)$ with $f^+ \not\in H^{-1}(\Omega)$.

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    I agree that there are positivity problems ... but he is restraining to the subset of measurable functions in the Besov space, so not general distributions. – LL 3.14 Aug 28 '21 at 21:10