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I would like to count subgroups of each order (2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12) of $S_4$, and, hopefully, convince others that I counted them correctly. In order to do this by hand in the term exam, I need a clever way to do this because there can be as many subgroups of a group of order 24 as $2^{23}$.

Do you know how to do this?

(I would be most grateful if you could tell me what part of the answer to the old question answers my question before voting to close.)

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    This page may be very helpful: http://groupprops.subwiki.org/wiki/Subgroup_structure_of_symmetric_group:S4 – luke May 03 '13 at 01:49
  • This page splits up the proper, nontrivial subgroups into seven isomorphism types. That would probably be the least tedious way to write them all out by hand. – luke May 03 '13 at 01:53
  • @zach How do you find the isomorphism types of the subgroups given a finite (symmetric) group? – Pteromys May 03 '13 at 02:27
  • @amWhy I would be most grateful if you could tell me what part of the answer to the old question answers my question. – Pteromys May 03 '13 at 02:35
  • @pteromys: Have you covered K4, A4, and S4 as a family? There is a way to go through the subgroups using those. Alternatively, notice that only 6, 12, and 24 are not prime powers (use Sylow ideas for the prime powers; then use Sylow theorem to understand the structure of 6 and 12). – Jack Schmidt May 03 '13 at 03:03
  • I don't think this should be closed as a duplicate - to me it seems sufficiently different from the more general question. (This case seems still doable by hand.) – Martin Sleziak May 03 '13 at 12:20

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By Lagrange's theorem, the order of a subgroup divides 24, so we are looking for subgroups of orders 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, and 24. We go through the list, often using Sylow's theorems:

  • The subgroups of order 1 and 24 are obviously unique.

Subgroups of order 2 are in 1–1 correspondance with elements of order 2, so you get 4-choose-2 = 6 transpositions $\langle (i,j) \rangle$ and 4-choose-2-over-2 = 3 double transpositions $\langle (i,j)(k,l) \rangle$.

  • Nine subgroups of order 2, all cyclic, two conjugacy classes

By Sylow's theorem the subgroups of order 3 are all conjugate, so $\langle (1,2,3) \rangle$, $\langle (1,2,4) \rangle$, $\langle (1,3,4) \rangle$, and $\langle (2,3,4) \rangle$.

  • Four subgroups of order 3, all conjugate to the alternating group of degree 3

Size 4 is messy, so I delay it.

A subgroup of order 6 must have a normal Sylow 3-subgroup, so must live inside the normalizer (inside S4) of a Sylow 3-subgroup. The Sylow 3-subgroups are just the various alternating groups of degree 3, and their normalizers are various symmetric groups of degree 3, so are exactly the 4 subgroups of order 6.

  • four subgroups of order 6, $\langle (i,j), (i,j,k) \rangle$ parameterized by sets $\{i,j,k\} \subset \{1,2,3,4\}$ of size 3.

All subgroups of order 8 are conjugate by Sylow's theorem, so we just have $\langle (i,k), (i,j,k,l) \rangle$ which is dihedral.

  • three subgroups of order 8, all conjugate, all dihedral

A subgroup of order 4 is a subgroup of a Sylow 2-subgroup, so either cyclic $\langle (i,j,k,l) \rangle$ or one of the two kinds of Klein 4-subgroups $\langle (i,j), (k,l) \rangle$ (3 subgroups), or the true K4 $\langle (i,j)(k,l), (i,k)(j,l) \rangle$ (normal).

  • seven subgroups of order 4, three conjugacy classes

A subgroup of order 12 either has a normal Sylow 2-subgroup (and the only subgroups of order 4 with normalizers having elements of order 3 are K4 with normalizer A4) or a normal Sylow 3-subgroup, but in the latter case the normalizer of a Sylow 3-subgroup is only size 6, not 12.

  • one subgroup of order 12, the alternating group of degree 4

Those were all possible orders, and for each order we proved any subgroup of that order had a specific form, and then counted how many had that form.

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  • Thank you for your helpful answer. What do you think is the easiest way, in general, to determine of what form the element of a subgroup of a specific type (conjugacy class or isomorphic class) is, and how many subgroups fall in that type? – Pteromys May 04 '13 at 03:44
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    In general it is very hard. 24 is a small number with few factors, and the normalizers of S4's "important" subgroups are small. You could try the same exercise with the "upside down S4". The group consists of all 2x2 matrices with entries in Z/3Z and determinant 1. It only has 15 subgroups (7 classes), so should be reasonable. – Jack Schmidt May 04 '13 at 03:58
  • In my original problem, I understand that you calculated the index of the normalizer or found the parameterized general form of subgroups and counted the parameters, to obtain the number of subgroups of a specific type. Is this correct? – Pteromys May 04 '13 at 05:04
  • Yes. In this case, you can usually do both since conjugacy in S4 is just relabeling the numbers 1,2,3,4; when I write down groups in terms of i,j,k, changing parameters is exactly conjugating. – Jack Schmidt May 04 '13 at 05:06
  • @JackSchmidt But why are there exactly 3 subgroups of order 8, I only know there are more than one subgroups of order 8 and by Sylow theorem there are odd number of them. (Someone told me the number of them divides 3, is that true?) – No One Apr 23 '15 at 23:04
  • This was very helpful, but you lost me at the order-12 classification. Why must such a subgroup hold either a normal Sylow-2 subgroup or a normal Sylow-3 subgroup? What's wrong with having a certain number of both (not normal) Sylow-2,3 subgroups? Furthermore, is there an easy way to calculate that the only order-12 normaliser of an order-4 subgroup is $A_4$ of $K4$? – FShrike Jul 30 '22 at 16:21
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Well, the first step would be to write out $S_4$:

$$ S_4=\{(1), (12), (13), (14), (23), (24), (34), (123), (132), (142), (124), (134), (143), (234), (243), (1234), (1243), (1324), (1342), (1423), (1432), (12)(34), (13)(24), (14)(23)\} $$

That's one subgroup down (29 to go).

Next, consider subgroups isomorphic to ${\mathbb Z_2}$. That's any element of order $2$ (from the list below) and the identity (9 total):

$$ (12), (13), (14), (23), (24), (34), (12)(34), (13)(24), (14)(23) $$

Move on to those isomorphic to ${\mathbb Z_3}$. There are eight $3$-cycles in $S_4$ and each unique subgroup must contain two of them, so there are a total of 4.

Now, ${\mathbb Z_4}$. Consider $\langle (1234) \rangle$. We've got $\{(1),(1234),(13)(24),(1432) \}$ and two more like this.

From here, just keep going through the list. Think about what elements you need to form a particular isomorphism type and then figure out how many ways you can form each type. For instance, if you have a subgroup isomorphic to $D_8$, you'll need a cyclic subgroup of order $4$ (we have three of those) and 4 elements of order $2$.

Including what we've already come up with, there should be 4 subgroups isomorphic to the Klein 4-group (each contains 3 elements of order $2$), 4 to $S_3$ (think of this one as choosing 3 elements out of $\{1,2,3,4\}$ and considering the permutations on this new set of three symbols), 3 to $D_8$ (again, we're limited by the cyclic "subgroup of rotations", $A_4$ will be the only subgroup of order $12$, and don't forget $\{(1)\}$.

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    You state without proof that there are $30$ subgroups. How do you know this? – Ross Millikan May 03 '13 at 04:41
  • @RossMillikan, can you find any more? I was working off of the groupprops article posted in the comments – luke May 03 '13 at 04:44
  • No, I didn't look. But OP said there might be $2^{23}$ so I thought this needed some justification, as you rely on it to say you are done. – Ross Millikan May 03 '13 at 04:47
  • I'm not sure how to prove that these $30$ subgroups are the only ones, but I will think about it. – luke May 03 '13 at 04:52
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I know I am late but this might be helpful for people who are coming here looking for an answer.

In order to find all the subgroups, you must go through each element and see what it generates. To begin with, list the group

S4={(1),(12),(13),(14),(23),(24),(34),(123),(132),(142),(124),(134),(143),(234),(243),(1234),(1243),(1324),(1342),(1423),(1432),(12)(34),(13)(24),(14)(23)}

Iterate through each element and see what it generates. In order to figure out what an element generates, you multiply it by itself until you get the identity. All the elements you get when multiply are part of the subgroup. The amount of times you need to do this will be the order, or the number of elements in the subgroup. Here are some examples of how to generate subgroup.

<(1)> = {(1)}


<(1 2)> = {(1), (1 2)}

(1 2)(1 2) = (1)


<(1 3)> = {(1), (1 3)}

(1 3)(1 3) = (1)


<(1 2 3)> = {(1), (1 2 3), (1 3 2)}

(1 2 3)(1 2 3) = (1 3 2)

(1 2 3)(1 2 3)(1 2 3) = (1 3 2)(1 2 3) = (1)


<(1 2 3 4)> = {(1), (1 2 3 4), (2 4)(1 3), (1 4 3 2)}

(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4) = (2 4)(1 3)

(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4) = (1 4 3 2)

(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4)(1 2 3 4) = (1)


<(1 2)(3 4)> = {(1),(1 2)(3 4)}

(1 2)(3 4)(1 2)(3 4) = (1)


Some of the generated subgroups will be duplicated. However, there will not be more than 4!=24 because that is how many elements there are to generate subgroups.

I hope this helped and let me know if I made any mistakes.

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