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$4^3$ is $4\cdot 4\cdot 4$

Then $4^{1.2}$ is what, $4\cdot\dotso$??

What happens to the number with a fraction exponent when we try to represent it only using numbers and basic operations (like $+$, $-$, $\div$, and $\cdot$)?

$4^{1.2} = 4*4^{0.2}$; but there's still a fractional exponent, $0.2$, there. I can't represent $4^{1.2}$ only using basic operations.


Is there a way to do that? Is it impossible fundamentally in math, or is it possible using imaginary numbers?


i checked answers form this 8 year old question but it's not giving the answer i'm looking for.

JeX
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    Write $1.2$ as a fraction. It is $1.2=6/5$. Then $4^{1.2}=4^{6/5}=\sqrt[5]{4^6}$. – Cornman Jun 30 '21 at 19:14
  • @Cornman 5√4 = 4^1/5 = 4^0.2. this is not what i want, you just used some math syntax/symbol to represent 0.5th exponent. What i want is to represent 4^0.2 as some --->>> (whole number)^(optional - whole number)/(some whole number)^(optional - whole number) – JeX Jun 30 '21 at 19:19
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    Piggybacking off @Cornman's comment $4^{1.2}=\sqrt[5]{4^6}$ is defined to be the positive real number that, multiplied by itself five times, gives $4^6$. – Aaron Hendrickson Jun 30 '21 at 19:19
  • I do not think that I understand what you are trying to do, or why you want to take that restriction, but it might not be possible. Maybe expressing it how you want it, and then taking a limit, but I do not see the point in doing that. – Cornman Jun 30 '21 at 19:21
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    @Jeel: You can't think of $4^{0.2}$ in terms of repeated multiplication. It's just a number that obeys the exponent law $4^a \times 4^b = 4^{a+b}$. Using this law, we can show that $4^{0.2}$ is the fifth-root of $4$. – Joe Jun 30 '21 at 19:21
  • The only numbers that can be represented using whole numbers, $+, -, \div, \cdot$, (and we can even throw in integer exponents) are rational. $4^{1.2}$ is irrational (as tends to be the case for integers to fractional powers). If you allow log and antilog as basic operations, $4^{1.2} = antilog(1.2 \cdot \log(4))$ – TomKern Jun 30 '21 at 19:44
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    $$4^1 = 4$$ $$4^2 = 4 \cdot 4$$ $$4^{1.5} = 4 \cdot 4\hspace{-1.mm}{\Large\color{white}\blacksquare}$$ $$4^{1.2} = 4 \cdot 4\hspace{-1.7mm}{\Large\color{white}\blacksquare}$$ etc. – Jair Taylor Jun 30 '21 at 22:43
  • @Jeel: "(whole number)^(optional - whole number)/(some whole number)^(optional - whole number)" is a rational number. $4^{1/5}$ is not a rational number. What you want is impossible. – robjohn Jul 01 '21 at 08:52
  • $4^{1.2}$ is the answer to the question: if a quantity is growing exponentially so that it quadruples every $10$ years, then what does it do in a $12$ year period? Answer: it multiplies by a factor of $4^{1.2}$. An easier example that you can figure out without a calculator: Over a $5$ year period that same quantity would multiply by a factor of $4^{0.5}=\sqrt4=2$. That makes sense: doubles in $5$ years, quadruples in $10$ years. Right? – bof Jul 01 '21 at 10:00
  • @bof This link doesn't provide the appropriate answer i'm looking for but the question is quite same like "What's real world object equivalent of 4^1.2 or something like that...", Thanks for providing me this 8 yr old question link though. – JeX Jul 01 '21 at 18:48
  • @Cornman what if you have an irrational exponent? – BCLC Aug 24 '21 at 12:11
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    interesting: the answers here are better than the answers in the post of w/c this post is supposedly a duplicate – BCLC Aug 24 '21 at 12:14

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Before trying to answer the question you asked let's look at another.

Clearly you know what $$ 4 \times 3 $$ means. After all; multiplication is just repeated addition, so $$ 4 \times 3 = 4 + 4 + 4 = 12. $$ But what in the world is $$ 4 \times 1.2 ? $$ You can't add $4$ to itself $1.2$ times. You have to extend the definition of multiplication to allow for multiplying by a fraction like $1.2 = 6/5$. That's just what you learned about in elementary school when you struggled with fractions. Understanding exactly what $4 \times \sqrt{2}$ or $4 \times \pi$ mean is even subtler. You probably just did this with decimal approximations.

Now to your question. In order to understand $4^{1.2}$ you have to extend the definition of exponentiation. You can't just think of it as repeated multiplication. Doing that is subtle. It starts with thinking about the one half power and seeing why you want $9^{1/2}$ to be $3 = \sqrt{9}$. That's what the other answers are trying to tell you. There is no way to do it with the kind of expression you ask for in a comment.

(whole number)^(optional - whole number)/(some whole number)^(optional - whole number)

The best I can do for you is to think about $$ 4^{1.2} = 4 \times 4^{1/5}. $$ Now $4^{1/5}$ is some number. Call it $z$. Clearly $z$ is not just "$20\%$ of $4$". Whatever value $z$ is must satisfy $$ z^5 = (4^{1/5})^5 = 4 $$ so $z$ is the fifth root of $4$, or $\sqrt[5]{4}$. $$ $$

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  • I got what you are saying, so here's my another question... 41.2 = 4 + 20%(4), 43.7 = (4+4+4)+ 70%(4). So i understand about the fraction multiplication. While fraction exponents looks strange. Like 4^1.2 = 4 * 32.98%(4). And the percent number looks strange number. What it is saying can you elaborate on it please. – JeX Jun 30 '21 at 20:01
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    That "$32.98%(4)$" is just wrong, so I can't elaborate on it. I will do the best I can in the answer - but then don't ask for "more elaboration". – Ethan Bolker Jun 30 '21 at 22:13
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    On logarithmic paper, $z$ is clearly 20% of 4. :D – Eric Duminil Jul 01 '21 at 06:28
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    I'm surprised no one has said this. $$1.2×4=4×1.2=1.2+1.2+1.2+1.2$$ This means, $4$ times the sum of $1.2$. – lone student Jul 01 '21 at 12:18
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    @lonestudent True. But you can't do $(1/2)\times(1/3)$ if you think of multiplication only as repeated addition. – Ethan Bolker Jul 01 '21 at 13:12
  • Sure. Therefore, I expected both factors not to be integers in your answer.. – lone student Jul 01 '21 at 13:35
  • @lonestudent I think that level of generality would have made it harder for the OP to follow the part of the argument that matters. – Ethan Bolker Jul 01 '21 at 13:37
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I'm going to assume you're only referring to rational powers here. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I think of it as an inverse operation to give you something resembling the repeated multiplication form you are looking for.

For instance, if you're trying to find the square root of $4$, you're trying to solve the following equation:

$$x=4^{0.5};$$

so instead of $4\times 4\times\cdots$ for some number of times, you're looking at $x\times x=4$. For any rational power $r=p/q$, you're solving two things:

  • The first is the $p$-th power, or $4\times 4\times \cdots$ for $p$ times; say this value is $k$.
  • Then $x\times x \times \cdots$ for $q$ times and equate that with $k$.
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I think graphing the exponential function will help you come to an intuitive understanding of it.

So here's a plot of $y = 4^x$ for $x = [0, 4]$:

plot of y = 4 ^ x

But how do we fill in the values in-between these whole number exponents?

Well let's try plotting some other exponential functions. Here's $y = 2^x$:

plot of y = 2 ^ x

You might not be able to tell just from looking, but it's the same shape. All of the points on the first plot are there on the second plot. $4^4 = 2^8 = 256$.

We might now guess that $4^{1.5} = 4^{3/2} = 2^3$, and indeed, that's true, both equal 8. We can fill in the plot for 0.5, 1.5, 2.5 and 3.5:

plot of y = 4 ^ x

Unfortunately it's not as simple as $a^{b/c} = (a/c)^b$, instead the rule works out to be

$$a^{b/c} = \sqrt[c]{a^b}$$

So it's a little more complicated to work out, but the exponential function is continuous, and all the intermediate values can be calculated. And very occasionally, they work out to be integers too. But I hope this has given you a bit of intuition into how fractional exponents work.

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Seems intuitive that $p:=4^{1.2}$ should lie somewhere between $4^1=4$ and $4^2=16$. But where ?

To answer this in a consistent way only relying on integer powers, we make three remarks:

  • for any number $q$ and naturals $m,n$, $(q^m)^n=q^{mn}$ is always true;

  • it does not seem unreasonable to generalize to $m,n$ not integers;

  • accepting this rule, $p^5=(4^{1.2})^5=4^6=4096.$

Now we have to solve the equation

$$p^5=4096,$$ which we can do by trial and error.

For instance, we can write

$$4^5=1024,5^5=3125,6^5=7776,$$ and $p$ should lie between $5$ and $6$.

Then we refine by introducing decimals,

$$5^5=3125,5.1^5=3450.25251,5.2^5=3802.04032,5.3^5=4181.95493$$

and $p$ should lie between $5.2$ and $5.3$.

Continuing this search, we obtain (after very very lengthy computation)

$$p=5.2780316430915770374960078849186\cdots$$

It is possible to show that this number has infinitely many decimals, which never repeat periodically. It is said to be irrational. By means of this trick, we can in principle raise any number to a power that is a fraction. We can also raise to an irrational power by using a close rational approximation of that power.


In practice, computing arbitrary powers is made easy by means of the so-called logarithms and antilogarithms, using the formula

$$a^b=\text{antilog}(\log(a)\cdot b)$$

where $\log$ and $\text{antilog}$ denote two special functions that can be computed efficiently or tabulated. Observe that taking a power is now replaced by two function evaluations and a product.

(Historically, logarithms were introduced to ease the computation of products by hand, using $$a\cdot b=\text{antilog}(\log(a)+\log(b))$$ which trades a multiplication for an addition.)

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  • Let $a\geq0,$ and $m,n$ be positive integers.

    Then, by definition, $a^\frac mn$ equals $(a^\frac1n)^m.$

  • $a^\frac1n$ refers to the set of the $n$th roots of $a.$

    While every $n$th root is an algebraic number, most are not rational.

  • This plot represents $4^{0.2}=4^\frac15$ on the complex plane:

    enter image description here

    Here, only the rightmost number (orange dot) is real. Its value $\approx1.32$ equals the circle's radius. It is typically denoted by $\sqrt[5]4,$ and is an irrational number, i.e., it cannot be expressed as the ratio of two integers, and as such is not expressible by merely dividing (and/or adding, subtracting, multiplying) whole numbers.

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  • how you come up with the graph? can you explain how to draw it so that i can clearly understand your answer... – JeX Jul 01 '21 at 19:16
  • @Jeel Every positive number $a$ has two complex square roots, three complex cube roots, five complex fifth roots, and so on. Each set of $n$th roots of $a$ lie on a circle of radius $\sqrt[n]a$ on the complex plane such that the positive root $\sqrt[n]a$ lies on the positive real axis and the resultant sectors each has angle $\frac{360^{\circ}}n.$ This portion of my above answer is peripheral to its main point (the final sentence) though. – ryang Jul 01 '21 at 22:00